The reason for the meeting with Eduard Yakubovsky, the Chairman of the Supreme Court of the Donetsk People's Republic, was the already well-known case of the 93-year-old former KGB colonel Boris Steklyar. Recall that in Ukraine the prosecutor office initiates a criminal case against him, because he eliminated in 1952 the Ukrainian nationalist Neil Khasevich and his accomplices. The petition sent by the national human rights center was registered in the General Prosecutor’s Office of Ukraine. According to the activists of this center, the 93-year-old colonel should be convicted, since he represents "a threat to the Ukrainian people". During our conversation with Eduard Nikolayevich, other equally acute issues were touched upon.
An ordinary political punishment
- Eduard Nikolayevich, how much sense do you see in this attack of the so-called Ukrainian patriots?
- It's somewhat unnatural to talk about the so-called Ukrainian patriots and common sense. For it's not appropriate to mention common sense in the context of the so-called Ukrainian patriots, Bandera followers and other similar persons. We can talk about schizophrenia, about psychopathy... But common sense is absent there at all.
This is evident from their actions, decisions, intentions. After all, since the beginning of the Maidan riots, and in fact, even much earlier, the Bandera followers were guided by the only principle: to kill and show atrocities in everything. This is what they are "famous" for throughout their entire Bandera history. And the inhabitants of their native regions remembered that pretty well, for showed all their atrocities in relation to civil, unprotected people. Belarusians and Poles still remember this... And now the Bandera followers are again trying to apply the same practice of atrocities, outrage and openly Nazi harassment to their fellow citizens. Returning to the situation with the aforementioned veteran of the Great Patriotic War, I repeat: there is no common sense at all.
If you look at the documents that testify to the activities of Neil Khasevich during the Great Patriotic War and after its end, you will see that it was not just an artist gifted by the Almighty. He actively participated in the activities of the Bandera underground. And, no less important, he was killed with a weapon in his hands. Note that his death found him not at a canvas with a finished or unfinished work of art. He held not a palette, but a machine-gun. Khasevich was not alone, but in the company of bandits, armed Bandera followers. It is known that they were asked to surrender. However, the bandits did not comply with this request of the Ministry of State Safety officers. As far as we know from the documents of the case, having received a refusal from Bandera followers, it was decided to eliminate them. This, in fact, happened. Then there were no victims among the ministerial officers. So, from the legal point of view of any state, Colonel Steklar - I do not remember his then rank - cannot be prosecuted, for he was carrying out his official duties to fight and eliminate all these Bandera formations. And it's not his fault that Khasevich and his gang refused to surrender to the authorities. By this they made it clear that they were ready to show armed resistance to the State Safety authorities.
- Have you ever encountered anything similar during your career?
- Personally I have never encountered such cases, but there are such cases in the world practice. As an example, I will cite one of them. The Latvian court convicted Vasily Makarovych Kononov. He is also a hero of the Great Patriotic War, a former partisan. The subject matter of the case was as follows. As is known, during the war the Latvian SSR was occupied by the Nazi troops. The Nazis distributed arms to those people who wished to join the so-called Shutsmans, that is, the police. They did not wear uniforms, but they heartily participated in punitive operations against partisans.
Once activists of Hitler's accomplices informed their bosses about finding a group of partisans in one of the villages. As a result, the partisans were burned in the barn. In their turn, the partisan tribunal passed a verdict: to punish the traitors by means of the death penalty. In other words, the accomplices of the invaders had to answer for their atrocity. After some time these police-Shutsmans were identified and eliminated by the soldiers of the detachment in which Vasily Kononov fought. Years later, he denied his presence in the village at the time of the elimination of the traitors. But still, by the Latvian court he was found guilty of killing this so-called peaceful population, but, in fact, traitors. However, the Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights issued a decision on the incompetence of the criminal prosecution of Vasily Kononov. However, the Grand Chamber of the European Court, contrary to its own rules of procedure, revised the decision and found Kononov guilty of a crime which he did not commit.
Obviously, there was a political order here. Because, violating their own laws and regulations... Such cases confirm that the campaign against Russia is proceeding systematically, the Nazis are being rehabilitated... To my regret, the remnants of the Nazis in Latvia have confidently raised their heads. And now their brothers, the Ukrainian Nazis, are using the same methods.
Coming back to Kononov. Under wartime laws, he was not a criminal. Even if he directly participated in the elimination of the traitors, he is justified by the fact that he destroyed the armed accomplices of the Hitlerites. In this case we are dealing with an ordinary political punishment. And the meanness of this situation is that no one is looking for the real Nazi criminals, is not prosecuting them. Although their location is well known. However in this case the Latvian justice machine prefers to slip on one place. A history of domestic application.
- If we proceed from the behavior of the initiators of this persecution of the veteran of the Great Patriotic War, then everyone who took part in the struggle against fascism is liable to court ... How can these false patriots be stopped altogether?
- Judging by the present-day Ukraine situation, it is just impossible to stop them. Because any, even the most timid, attempt to appeal to the law, to justice - written or unwritten - immediately stumbles upon a tough counteraction from both the Nazis themselves, and the authorities who cannot cope with the criminals.
For examples, you do not need to go far. Remember the recent events of May 9 in Dnepropetrovsk, Mykolayiv, and Kiev. As soon as the authorities applied measures to protect peaceful demonstrators from nationalists, threats of the use of force immediately followed.
- And we know what the authorities did…
- Yes, yes, they backed out. If I'm not mistaken, in Dnepropetrovsk not only the head of the so-called regional police was dismissed, but also other employees who just acted in accordance with the law. And this is May of the current year!
- In the case of Boris Steklar, is there any place for neo-fascist revenge for the defeat of their ancestors in the Great Patriotic War?
- One French politician once said about the supporters of the monarchy: "They forgot nothing and learned nothing". Obviously, these false patriots are moved by nothing but revenge and anger. They can only destroy. We see this on the example of events we witness now. Therefore, I am convinced that the so-called Ukrainian patriots in their actions are guided not by common sense, but by revenge, meanness. Moreover, by their actions they are trying to whitewash their ancestors, who in due time in Nuremberg were recognized as Nazi criminals.
- It's amazing, but the Ukrainian authorities follow their tastes.
- Yes, unfortunately, it is happening now. And the further this goes, the more chances the Nazis have to rewrite the history even if for themselves only. As a matter of fact, the rewritten history will only be for their domestic application.
Accomplices of neo-Nazism
- Judging by the fact that the Ukrainian Prosecutor General's Office received this petition against Steklar, this looks like encouragement of this process. Isn’t this an evidence of the fact that the government openly endorses neo-Nazi views?
- You see, the open endorsment of neo-Nazi views was claimed about by the leaders of the so-called Maidan. And the current government of Ukraine got its powers from the hands of these Maidan conspirators. And it, the government, is a successor of the unjust cause of instigators of the Maidan events. Therefore, there is no other answer to this question. The current Ukrainian top leadership are either secret or hidden accomplices of neo-Nazism.
- You have already mentioned the Dnipropetrovsk, Nikolaev, and Kiev events of May 9, which resulted in the dismissal of police officers. How can this fact be commented upon from a legal, state point of view? What, in fact, can this be followed by?
- We have an example of how government dealt with law enforcement officers in Kiev on the Maidan Nezalezhnosti in 2013-2014. They are being prosecuted, from my point of view, in the absence of evidence of guilt. At the same time, everything is being done, all resources are being used to recognize law enforcement officers as guilty of crimes that they did not commit. This is already stated by international organizations, not only by Russia and us, the People's Republics. Humans, to be more precise inhuman monsters, who committed this barbaric crime in Odessa in May 2014, will go unpunished. It's unexplainable.
- Do you think the case, framed up against the war veteran, and ignoring the rights of innocent policemen have something in common?
- I believe that these are links in one chain that fit into the logic, or, more accurately illogicality of the Ukrainian ruling regime. They try very hard to crush ideological dissention, to build a country on the principle of the fascist Germany with "one nation, one Fuhrer". To be true, there was probably announced a competition for the place of the Fuhrer of Ukraine. So, as soon as a person with different views appears, all this Bandera camarilla forgets about its internal contradictions and unites to fight the dissent. And the rest of the time they simply squabble among themselves for the access to the sinecure.
